tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post112480779005736758..comments2023-11-02T07:44:14.413-05:00Comments on Progressive Advocacy: Health care is welfare? That's what Bill Brady said. Kristen McQueary takes him to taskDan Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07467295534995212259noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124983802179597822005-08-25T10:30:00.000-05:002005-08-25T10:30:00.000-05:00Thanks for the wisdom.It was EXTREME!!!!Thanks for the wisdom.<BR/><BR/>It was EXTREME!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124947889943984842005-08-25T00:31:00.000-05:002005-08-25T00:31:00.000-05:00Boy, nothing like telling the Emperor that he isn'...Boy, nothing like telling the Emperor that he isn't wearing any clothes to rouse up the rabble.<BR/><BR/>If you think health care is a "right" then you think Doctors should be "enslaved."<BR/><BR/>You want health care? Stop eating pasta & Cheetos. Good Golly, the gall of you people.<BR/><BR/>Nothing like collectivizing farms and killing Ukranians to meet your utopian manias.<BR/><BR/>If you aren't paying for it, it's Welfare. Brady was right ,and if you make it a campaign issue, most will agree with him.<BR/><BR/>You may have the votes to "impose your morality" on us. <BR/><BR/>Heck, you may even convince me that it is the right thing to do. But your never ending drive to obfusacte the truth with your PC pabulum is wearing thin.<BR/><BR/>PC is a lie. Handouts are Welfare. Illinois will eventually revert to the mean.Extreme Wisdomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04477416791736537181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124909538631909532005-08-24T13:52:00.000-05:002005-08-24T13:52:00.000-05:00ideas from health industry neophyte... there are a...ideas from health industry neophyte... there are at least three types of markets:<BR/>1. mass-market products and services related to public health<BR/>2. niche, orphaned illness and disease (ALS, Cystic Fibrosis, others)<BR/>3. high margin drugs for mass market (big pharma - cholesterol, heart, arthritis and pain, depression, etc)<BR/><BR/>In IL we could beef up public education related to this stuff. <BR/><BR/>Points 1 and 2 arguably look like market failures with big spillover benefits suitable for public expenditure. <BR/><BR/>Point 1 may be somewhat addressed within existing framework yet one could argue for more, including process innovation.<BR/><BR/>Point 2 would be a nifty point of differentiation: pick some orphaned diseases and build a center for research excellence. Study something purely because it is complicated and difficult - not necessarily because it is a huge market or immediately profitable to specific individuals or companies.<BR/><BR/>There are multiple possible funding sources. The foundation at the Univ of IL may be one possible source. State tax funding may be another. There may opportunities for joint-educational-ventures with private universities - Bradley, IL Wesleyan, etc.<BR/><BR/>This would bring jobs, tax revenue, and bright & hard-working people to IL.<BR/><BR/>Generally, we need to plunk more assets in long-term, highly-variable, high-risk health care things. We also need to get more for existing health care spending on routine things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124900564110661402005-08-24T11:22:00.000-05:002005-08-24T11:22:00.000-05:00Dan, although we're homies and you best believe I ...Dan, although we're homies and you best believe I got your back in case some kinda punk marks want to step up and throw down, I have to ask, what are you smoking? This kidcare program is clearly welfare. "Welfare" is just a name for a kind of program. It's true that it's not a very popular word, the same way that "liberals" or "tax cuts for the rich", etc., etc. are unpopular, but that doesn't change its meaning. Welfare is any program where the government gives money or goods directly to people on the grounds that they're needy. I thought you were in favor of that!<BR/><BR/>Now, you have a point that its hypocritical for this Brady fellow to be against welfare for poor people and yet support subsidies to business. On ther other hand, not having to pay taxes on something is not the same thing as a subsidy. As I said in one my old Daily Illini columns, that's the same kind of "subsidy" you get if I rob you for your wallet but I let you keep your watch. Well, never mind: I know that you liberals ... er, sorry, progressives (actually, I'm a liberal) ... I know that you progressives think it is a subsidy, so I doubt I'll change your mind today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124861223110739042005-08-24T00:27:00.000-05:002005-08-24T00:27:00.000-05:00Great that McQueary called Brady to task. Fact: Pe...Great that McQueary called Brady to task. Fact: People will get sick and use emergency rooms which cost the state a fortune. Access to care in a doctors office where the Federal government gives us 65 cents on the dollar is nothing to poo-poo. <BR/>Bad move on Brady's part...someone is giving him bad advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124821653940972992005-08-23T13:27:00.000-05:002005-08-23T13:27:00.000-05:00http://www.uagrad.org/Alumnus/w05/phxmed.htmlArizo...http://www.uagrad.org/Alumnus/w05/phxmed.html<BR/><BR/>Arizona recently had a good year on revenue tax collections and plunked some money into health education and research.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767522044256814468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124820823641414302005-08-23T13:13:00.000-05:002005-08-23T13:13:00.000-05:00ideas:1. If possible, get Andy Grove to come to I...ideas:<BR/><BR/>1. If possible, get Andy Grove to come to Illinois and speak on health care.<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/dvtbm<BR/><BR/>2. Education: we could easily invest more in public education of health care. <BR/>a.Does the state university system have a medicine research outfit? (Stanford may make more from life science royalty than computer tech)<BR/><BR/>b.Some of medicine could be greatly helped by process innnovation - finding dramatically more efficient ways to distribute things would make things less scarce and cheaper. This is commond ground as it helps business and government. A research institution at a public university in Illinois could be geared toward process innovation as well as other forms of innovation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5836245.post-1124811152338202372005-08-23T10:32:00.000-05:002005-08-23T10:32:00.000-05:00Let's not forget, he called government assistance ...Let's not forget, he called government assistance to businesses "...providing a level playing field..."<BR/><BR/>So, let's recap.<BR/><BR/>Health Care for children and families who work: welfare.<BR/><BR/>Government subsidies to for-profit corporations: level playing field.<BR/><BR/>We haven't done the Lord enough favors for him to let Senator not-ready-for-prime-time win the nomination, have we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com