Wednesday, January 05, 2005

Kerry says no; MoveOn, Moore and Jesse Jackson argue for an objection

In today's email to his nearly 3,000,000 supporters, Senator John Kerry called for federal election reform and confessed that he would not join Representative Conyers in an objection to the certification of Ohio's electoral votes.

That's a downer.

Jesse Jackson had a good op-ed here in the Sun-Times making the case for a two hour debate on the voter suppression in Ohio in Congress (whether due to negligence or intentional misconduct, the result is the same).

Today, MoveOn and Michael Moore both came out for a call for one Democratic Senator to join with Representative Conyers (and apparently about a dozen other Representatives) who will rise to object to the certification of Ohio's electoral votes.

I sure hope either Durbin or Obama rise with Representative Conyers to object to the vote. I've put in my calls, but the lines are busy.


Anonymous said...


Your people are calling....Senator Frist's office. His lines were shut down. That seems productive.

Anonymous said...

This is a great idea. Americans love a sore loser. And it looks like you might get your wish. Foxnews is reporting that Senator Boxer is going to challenge.,2933,143452,00.html
- CF

Dan Johnson-Weinberger said...

It's not a sore loser. It's a debate on the sanctity of counting every vote. It's evident that lots of people didn't get their votes counted in Ohio, either because of eight-hour lines (which, really, is borderline criminal. Eight hours?) or unanswered questions about the manufacturers of voting equipment. That's not right. Man, I hope we have the backbone to demand a debate and not defer to some nagging need for establishment approval.

Friend of FPL said...

What's the argument against debate? I just don't get it. Maybe I watch too much cspan, but it seems to me that ANYTHING should be up for a two-hour debate. There's no lack of time on the floor! I guess I'm exposing my ignorance of the daily workings of Congress.

Anonymous said...

Willem, the argument is just that it's an inappropriate time. You can debate during the regular session of Congress. To debate in such an unserious way during the vote counting is akin to having an anti-war protest on the same dias as the President's Inaugural Address. Time and a place, etc. They can have this debate every day for the next month if they want to.

Friend of FPL said...

Again, I hope it's not tiresome to explain the floor's rules, but it seems to me that they can't debate it every week. They can give speeches to an empty chamber with no actions pending, but no two-hour debate would ever be scheduled by the leaders.

PS - DJWinfo is great and all, but is there a blogging wonk who gets into the analysis of these events in terms of House and Senate rules?

Dan Johnson-Weinberger said...

I'd take the slogan of some beer company for this one: Any Time Is The Right Time. It's entirely appropriate to raise objections to the Ohio mess. I don't care who is at fault -- Ken Blackwell, local Dems on county election boards, or Tim Curry. Eight hour lines in the rain to vote is borderline criminal, and the vast majority of those lines affected black precincts. That's not right.